tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2867321763955747460.post578432774636422593..comments2023-08-11T01:00:07.123-07:00Comments on 5:55 AM: Bringing Freedom to Web Apps: Introducing ForkolatorSandyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15559715601984648600noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2867321763955747460.post-66854834978259436912007-11-26T10:41:00.000-08:002007-11-26T10:41:00.000-08:00Thanks for the link, Sandy!By the way... I totally...Thanks for the link, Sandy!<BR/><BR/>By the way... I totally think Tomboy is a great platform for exploring what we might do with Forkolator. I'd love to explore half desktop/half web-based solutions to the syncing problem, or even a fully web-based forkolator-hosted version of Tomboy running on the desktop through Pyro...<BR/><BR/>.. it just seems like a great, well defined problem domain for exploring how web-friendly free software might work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2867321763955747460.post-75554673057459888422007-11-26T08:15:00.000-08:002007-11-26T08:15:00.000-08:00I'd be very interested in seeing some discussion o...I'd be very interested in seeing some discussion of the merits and problems of using the AGPL in a situation like this.Justynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05070812276807824201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2867321763955747460.post-5192970730382481392007-11-25T16:02:00.000-08:002007-11-25T16:02:00.000-08:00If the server software was written in a language t...If the server software was written in a language that supported a sandbox well, such as Smalltalk or even JavaScript, then the security problems can be overcome.<BR/><BR/>However with PHP I don't think there are any options realistically.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2867321763955747460.post-21572449030110347482007-11-25T08:42:00.000-08:002007-11-25T08:42:00.000-08:00@anonymous: Because hosting is a huge effort. Bec...@anonymous: Because hosting is a huge effort. Because we're not at a point where everybody can reliably host their own services. Because that model totally fails for an app that relies on social networking of any kind. You might be interested in re-reading Luis' posts about why he's been using GMail.<BR/><BR/>Also, this is *not* about getting existing services to open up. It's about how our community can apply the same freedoms and development models to this "new" world of web apps and services. I'm also interested in figuring out how we can afford to compete effectively in this space.<BR/><BR/>By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if some combination of self-hosting and distributed computing is a long-term solution to a lot of this...but I really don't think we're there yet.Sandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15559715601984648600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2867321763955747460.post-9321045947931467752007-11-25T04:58:00.000-08:002007-11-25T04:58:00.000-08:00For Wordpress and other hosted systems: Why not ju...For Wordpress and other hosted systems: Why not just host it yourself?<BR/><BR/>And GMail and such will never open their sources^^Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com